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		<title>By: Parsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is really a wonderful post. i just had a fight wiht one of my friends and was feeling little depressed. i was wondering if i hurt my friend unnecessarily. so i was googling and came across this site. i am happy to read this blog. and i understood that i did hurt my friend my friend unnecessarily for no reason. i could have kept quiet and everything would have been fine. thanks for acting as an eye opener. god bless you:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this is really a wonderful post. i just had a fight wiht one of my friends and was feeling little depressed. i was wondering if i hurt my friend unnecessarily. so i was googling and came across this site. i am happy to read this blog. and i understood that i did hurt my friend my friend unnecessarily for no reason. i could have kept quiet and everything would have been fine. thanks for acting as an eye opener. god bless you:D</p>
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		<title>By: Speech ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speech ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wandering on web for speech writing help and found your website; it was a relief because I have got all the information now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wandering on web for speech writing help and found your website; it was a relief because I have got all the information now.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter McCartney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter McCartney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Yes, I wasn&#039;t on speaking terms with my father for quite sometime. Over time, far too long, it resolved itself and all is well now, and, just as well as he is getting on a bit. For those who have experienced the same thing and are still not talking, make up before it&#039;s too late. 

Take Care,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Yes, I wasn&#8217;t on speaking terms with my father for quite sometime. Over time, far too long, it resolved itself and all is well now, and, just as well as he is getting on a bit. For those who have experienced the same thing and are still not talking, make up before it&#8217;s too late. </p>
<p>Take Care,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a very thought-provoking post!  

Yes, you&#039;re right - family members do argue for no good reason and things are never the same again, and what&#039;s more, often that bad feeling spills over and affects other members of the family who have absolutely no idea what went wrong, but their feelings get changed anyway. This has happened in my own family with a cousin who has been ostracised and no-one outside that particular argument can understand why.  However, it stops some people inviting her to events in case they offend someone else, and that really IS sad.  

I think we have to remember that we can&#039;t choose family and there are going to be some we can&#039;t be true friends with because they are so different from us in terms of moral values, and what they want from life etc.  You can choose friends though, and over the last three or four years I&#039;ve lost two.  

If a friend suddenly seems to &#039;turn&#039; on you, what do you do?  Well, my way is to do exactly what I&#039;d hope others would do with me (do unto others as you would have done to you - that is my philosophy), but it doesn&#039;t always work.  Neither of these two people wanted to talk things through.  Neither could see my point of view despite me trying my best to let them know - without accusation, without swearing (sadly, &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; swore at me) how they had hurt me.  In the end, I had to just let them go.  By their actions they&#039;d proved that they were not the people I had thought they were, and having them in my life was too stressful.

It&#039;s very sad when these things happen.  It is very true that often it&#039;s misunderstanding or &#039;lashing out&#039; that causes the problem, but sometimes it&#039;s simply that the friendship has run its course. You get to the point where you find out what the person is truly like after the &#039;honeymoon&#039; period where everyone is trying to be likeable and it doesn&#039;t always work out. 

Or maybe you end up on the receiving end of what you describe; too much heat and anger, not enough thought, not enough forgiving.  Relationships are one of the hardest things in the world to get right sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a very thought-provoking post!  </p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right &#8211; family members do argue for no good reason and things are never the same again, and what&#8217;s more, often that bad feeling spills over and affects other members of the family who have absolutely no idea what went wrong, but their feelings get changed anyway. This has happened in my own family with a cousin who has been ostracised and no-one outside that particular argument can understand why.  However, it stops some people inviting her to events in case they offend someone else, and that really IS sad.  </p>
<p>I think we have to remember that we can&#8217;t choose family and there are going to be some we can&#8217;t be true friends with because they are so different from us in terms of moral values, and what they want from life etc.  You can choose friends though, and over the last three or four years I&#8217;ve lost two.  </p>
<p>If a friend suddenly seems to &#8216;turn&#8217; on you, what do you do?  Well, my way is to do exactly what I&#8217;d hope others would do with me (do unto others as you would have done to you &#8211; that is my philosophy), but it doesn&#8217;t always work.  Neither of these two people wanted to talk things through.  Neither could see my point of view despite me trying my best to let them know &#8211; without accusation, without swearing (sadly, <i>both</i> swore at me) how they had hurt me.  In the end, I had to just let them go.  By their actions they&#8217;d proved that they were not the people I had thought they were, and having them in my life was too stressful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very sad when these things happen.  It is very true that often it&#8217;s misunderstanding or &#8216;lashing out&#8217; that causes the problem, but sometimes it&#8217;s simply that the friendship has run its course. You get to the point where you find out what the person is truly like after the &#8216;honeymoon&#8217; period where everyone is trying to be likeable and it doesn&#8217;t always work out. </p>
<p>Or maybe you end up on the receiving end of what you describe; too much heat and anger, not enough thought, not enough forgiving.  Relationships are one of the hardest things in the world to get right sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your nice words on my blog!
I agree, &lt;i&gt;do on to others as you would like done onto you&lt;/i&gt; is really a golden rule.
Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your nice words on my blog!<br />
I agree, <i>do on to others as you would like done onto you</i> is really a golden rule.<br />
Have a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for popping over to my blog and your lovely comments!  I like this post ~ family ~ they are funny things ~ no?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for popping over to my blog and your lovely comments!  I like this post ~ family ~ they are funny things ~ no?  <img src='http://www.grammology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorothy,

I think family estrangements are more common than many people think.  Often people seem to avoid discussing the existence of such estrangements... either because they are too hurtful to rehash/explain or because they feel a certain &quot;stigma&quot; so-to-speak (for lack of a better phrase) that there is an estrangement in the family.

The golden rule principle you mentioned really is wise.  I watched live video from the Peace Summit in Vancouver (it was back in September 2009, I believe) and they talked of an initiative that launched a few days ago called the Charter for Compassion.  Your golden rule comment took my brain straight to their work. 

I haven&#039;t had a chance to blog about the Charter for Compassion initiative yet because I have had several friends suffer losses recently and I have been focusing on trying to support them as best as I am able.  

However, I think you&#039;d find the Charter for Compassion interesting.  I won&#039;t link to the project here because I don&#039;t generally leave site addresses in blog comments - but if you are interested in learning more about it, it should be easy to find just by Googling it.

Jeanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy,</p>
<p>I think family estrangements are more common than many people think.  Often people seem to avoid discussing the existence of such estrangements&#8230; either because they are too hurtful to rehash/explain or because they feel a certain &#8220;stigma&#8221; so-to-speak (for lack of a better phrase) that there is an estrangement in the family.</p>
<p>The golden rule principle you mentioned really is wise.  I watched live video from the Peace Summit in Vancouver (it was back in September 2009, I believe) and they talked of an initiative that launched a few days ago called the Charter for Compassion.  Your golden rule comment took my brain straight to their work. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had a chance to blog about the Charter for Compassion initiative yet because I have had several friends suffer losses recently and I have been focusing on trying to support them as best as I am able.  </p>
<p>However, I think you&#8217;d find the Charter for Compassion interesting.  I won&#8217;t link to the project here because I don&#8217;t generally leave site addresses in blog comments &#8211; but if you are interested in learning more about it, it should be easy to find just by Googling it.</p>
<p>Jeanne</p>
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		<title>By: meleah rebeccah</title>
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		<dc:creator>meleah rebeccah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have there been friends and family you’ve given up in your life and never seen or spoke to again and if so did a lot of time go by and in the end in your own mind and heart were there many times you wished you’d handled it differently so it might have had a better outcome? &quot;

Yes, I have had to eliminate certain friends over the years when I realized they were TOXIC for me. And, it was VERY painful to do so. I may not have handled it the best way, but for me, the ONLY positive outcome was walking away for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have there been friends and family you’ve given up in your life and never seen or spoke to again and if so did a lot of time go by and in the end in your own mind and heart were there many times you wished you’d handled it differently so it might have had a better outcome? &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I have had to eliminate certain friends over the years when I realized they were TOXIC for me. And, it was VERY painful to do so. I may not have handled it the best way, but for me, the ONLY positive outcome was walking away for good.</p>
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		<title>By: askcherlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>askcherlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happens, I&#039;m sure, to most of us at some time. It is especially difficult to handle when the holidays are approaching. Sometimes I think of The Serenity Prayer, and try to change the things I can and accept those which I cannot. Forgiveness is key, but not always reciprocated. And you&#039;re so right. People do need to think, not just before they speak, but before they act. Hug those close to you and pray for those who have closed the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens, I&#8217;m sure, to most of us at some time. It is especially difficult to handle when the holidays are approaching. Sometimes I think of The Serenity Prayer, and try to change the things I can and accept those which I cannot. Forgiveness is key, but not always reciprocated. And you&#8217;re so right. People do need to think, not just before they speak, but before they act. Hug those close to you and pray for those who have closed the door.</p>
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		<title>By: One of THE GUYS</title>
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		<dc:creator>One of THE GUYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you said, &quot;In one moment you forget everything you ever loved about this person.&quot; (I paraphrased) It&#039;s so true. Just like that, it&#039;s over. 

This is so sad. And you know what&#039;s even worse?! 

I&#039;d say, over the last 15 years, 80% of all my arguments have been via email. Now isn&#039;t that lame! I&#039;m just piggybacking on your whole point. If you&#039;re going to end a relationship, make sure it&#039;s done IN PERSON, and you&#039;ve thought it through. And never via email/text, etc. 

Like you said, THINK HARD before YOU SPEAK.....OR TYPE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you said, &#8220;In one moment you forget everything you ever loved about this person.&#8221; (I paraphrased) It&#8217;s so true. Just like that, it&#8217;s over. </p>
<p>This is so sad. And you know what&#8217;s even worse?! </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, over the last 15 years, 80% of all my arguments have been via email. Now isn&#8217;t that lame! I&#8217;m just piggybacking on your whole point. If you&#8217;re going to end a relationship, make sure it&#8217;s done IN PERSON, and you&#8217;ve thought it through. And never via email/text, etc. </p>
<p>Like you said, THINK HARD before YOU SPEAK&#8230;..OR TYPE!!!</p>
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